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TikTok's Obsession with Dark Humor
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I've seen a lot of content on TikTok about "dark humor" recently, so I wanted to discuss the recent events and my overall thoughts on the subject. Enjoy!
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I originally made the one sketch about Buzz assuming that he’s never done stand up before but upon doing further research, I found an old set of his from like 8 years ago that had some jokes that were actually kinda funny. Idk what happened in the past 8 years lol but yeah just thought I’d clear it up!
Rip Keith
I just started doing stand up and I did go for shock humor at first but then I realized it’s way harder to write an original dark joke and still make it funny and found writing other kinds of jokes way easier
He got rejected one too many times lol that's what happened💀
Some shit went down over those eight years
Broke: Saying racist, sexist, transphobic, homophobic, or otherwise bigoted shit and saying it's dark humor
Woke: actual dark humor that allows us to laugh at the things that bring us down
@what is this I think it does since it causes other problems to have other people have to tip toe for you instead of just more simply dropping it. Having to make other people choose their own words more carefully for simply a joke whether it’s a good one or not is inevitably bad. Sure you can say it’s a stupid joke, fine it’s acceptable. But taking a literal joke personally isn’t better and it’s in fact worse if anything.
@Ben Driscoll So essentially you find people who develop a victim mindset weak? Yeah I understand more clearly now, it's difficult for me to understand text format stuff cos I'm neuro-divergent, so I'm sorry about that. I personally just avoid the word weak when used to describe people suffering from mental illness/trauma. It brings up connotations I would rather avoid. So it's less your principles I disagree with and more the semantics, but that doesn't matter so much. But I can absolutely agree with the core principles of what you're talking about, that getting into a victim mindset is ultimately harmful. I've been in it before and really it's the most miserable you can get, and I know people who are currently in one and my lord is it frustrating to watch once you're out.
Drawing it back in though, I don't think being offended at offensive jokes is necessarily part of that. I feel like that's kinda the entire point of an offensive joke. It's funny cos its shocking/offensive, and potentially triggering to people who are further down the road in their recovery. Personally, if a joke is making fun of a victim I fail to see how that could be funny to someone unless they enjoy the suffering of others or view assault survivors as deserving or petty, etc. which just sends red flags to me as a whole
@what is this weakness is to give in to pain, to leave yourself vulnerable. Falling down doesn’t mean you’re weak but staying down and expect the world to sink low for you is. Pretty basic ngl, surprised you found this remotely confusing
@Ben Driscoll Can I ask what weakness means to you? This all may be a misunderstanding, since I've already clarified I understand and agree with some aspects but others I don't, mainly with the idea that we shouldn't be mindful of our own suffering and others.
@what is this being weak is by choice, that’s something I already implied for you to understand. No shit someone getting knocked down doesn’t mean they’re automatically weak. Begging is what makes someone weak, giving up and taking so many things personally. I’ll tell you right now that in China, Azerbaijani, literally any third world country they don’t give a shit. These are the most racist countries and a lot of these things you have you just take for granted, they have seen reality and it’s hard as shit. The amount of data you collect won’t solve anything without engineering, and humans can’t BE engineered into anything useful, nature does it for us it’s called evolution.
“Why is everyone so sensitive?!” Says the people that get into absolute frenzies over the thought of a transgender person just existing.
Being trans myself it's annoying that making fun of trans people is a trend rn with the "epic memers" I can't even watch memes without being told I'm basically a freak, I watch memes for a brief escape from the bullshit and now I can't, I used ifunny for like 6+ years and had to delete it just because of how common the trans hate was getting, and now the memes I watch on PLclip are getting just as bad, shit sucks
Not defending the dude i dont find him funny, dark humor should be humorous his version of it is more akin to common trolling BUT this is who they are and you are openly mocking them for it. Ironic that everyone here honestly believes bullying a bully is the answer. Fighting fire with fire, so young and naive =) just keep lowering yourself down to their level, that will show them. First of all both sides are obviously sensitive as fuck thats why they keep triggering each other every other sentence. Hard to change minds and opinions when you have 2 modes, defensive or aggressive.
I walk into a room as a trans man wearing a skirt and they go feral
@Omoriisthebest yes Omori ist the best and I’m also trans 😩
@Jack Deer boi based
I think dark humour is only okay when 1. its about yourself or YOUR past trauma (no one elses) or 2. kids falling
Yeah exactly, I have shitty mental health and childhood trauma and I joke about that but if someone jokes about my experiences it makes me feel like shit
This comment
Only joke about somebody else’s trauma if they say you can or if you’re already joking around about it, my friends and I are very open about ours and constantly joke about it together
To me dark humor is fine if it's actually funny, not just dark just for the sake of it being dark
I just find it comedic how these guys will call other people "snowflakes" and then burst a blood vessel if someone calls a "joke" unfunny.
@Matin Nikoomanzar chill out snow flake, your being a snow flake rn. How Abt you cope + L
Or make fun of their hairline lol that really gets them
@Matin Nikoomanzar ❄️ + ratio
@Nascour do you actually hear yourself?
I don’t like Nikita dragon but she deserves to have her pronouns respected.
Exactly, human decency is important
wait is her last name actually "Dragon"m
People, stop engaging with the troll, if they don't know what basic respect is, let them learn it the hard way.
@mangoaddicto
Yes.
@Khadiza Bhuiyan. Random yes but I’m talking specifically about a trans person in this example. People who are transphobes will misgender a person and justify its cause they don’t like them. But yes I agree, we should respect EVERYONES pronouns.
i hate that the term 'snowflake' is applied to anyone who practices basic empathy and doesn't mock marginalized groups for a cheap laugh.
i apply snowflake to people who instantly overreact usually emotionally to things instead of analytically thinking about it, these "things" generally never have affected the snowflake in question but they sure are passionate about something that doesn't affect them. Seperate but similar to karens. Usually terminally online giving them their warped view of reality.
A year late, but this comment speaks the truth.
Idk man I’d love to be called a snowflake for often, I love snowflakes :)
@raavya fr like ok you are man who is attracted to other men... And that's a bad thing? You don't see people walking around calling each other lesbians because it's offensive to the lesbians so what makes calling someone gay different from calling someone lesbian. The internet is broken
Dark humor is laughing at YOUR OWN misfortune. Not mocking the nature of someone ELSE'S existence.
YES
@LPSchaf yes it is
@Justin710 Ah, someone who watches F.B.I, nice
Dark Humour is making light out of someone's misfortune so that the person who experienced that misfortune can laugh along as well, I hate this kind of "you can only joke about your own trauma". Don't get me wrong, I actually agreed with every single moment of Kurtis's video EXCEPT that moment. French Baguette Intelligence's video on Dark Humor vs "Dark Humor" better than I can so you can watch that.
No
ppl who like ”edgy humour” genuinely thinks they’re the smartest, funniest and most original people ever when they really just reuse the same boring jokes that got popular in 2016. they really think they did something lol
@Nascour fr
@Space 123 people like this just strawman dark humor because they don't like it or they only found unfunny people who used it. It's very annoying how little people seem to understand dark humor nowadays
Not really true idk what type of people you have been seeing who like edgy humor but that isn’t true for me
@Derboe_ TheBeast if you have self-awareness you've already got those "dark humour" clowns beat
Like u do farming Karma in ur reddit echo chamber?
Doing this stuff and calling it "dark humour" has the same energy as punching someone in the face and calling it a "practical joke"
"just a prank bro"
In my opinion the only time dark humor is good I'd when I'm punching myself in the face
on that sam pepper type shit
In my opinion, there's a very clear distinction between dark humor and being a jerk. Actual dark humor is like, that one picture of a slide coming out of a skyscraper window that's captioned 'Suislide,' not being mean to people who are just minding their own business.
I cackled at that 😭
I like how they make jokes about ""sensitive"" people, but they act like little kids when someone points out their content is toxic and offensive
LITERALLY👏
@David Rios good. I hope all the videos get taken down. putting people down in the name of comedy is just being an asshole, and only serves to fuel already oppressive hierarchies. there are an unimaginable number of things in this world, if you’re “comedy” career hinges on offensive “jokes”, you are unoriginal and unfunny.
I'm trans (he/him) and so glad to see people talking about this stuff and spreading the message
@unknown citation pls
You are so cool bro!! Stay strong :]
@unknown i dont get it, why do people like you always have to be so offended by another persons business? is your life not that interesting?
@unknown its okay its just a phase
I think a lot of people who says they like “dark humour” don’t know what a dark joke is. It’s the irony of it that makes it a joke then the punchline. It also addresses what is wrong with our society as a whole. I’m Asian and I make dark humour about it all the time. I say things like “maybe if I tape my eyes open, I can blend in and not get hate crime’d. The irony, the punchline, and it addresses what’s going on in the world. I don’t like when people who are white tell me that it’s offensive because I already know it is. Also, I don’t get when someone ask me “Do you want rice?” when I’m hungry and another person says “omg, are you just saying that coz he’s Asian?” And I’m there like “Ah, yes please. I’ll have some rice. Thank you!” The person who ask me if I wanted rice says it trying to be accommodate for my culture and the person who says because I’m asian thinks like that because that’s how they see it; just offensive because they are offensive. I hope that make sense
This ^^
@Oliver R I just hate people too who gets offended on behalf of another person.
@Oliver R oh yeah, definitely. I 100% agree. I think most jokes that makes fun of victims are uncomfortable and not at all funny, and I say most since there are some that can be funny given the right context
I feel like the intention of a joke is what matters the most, like if youre saying a rape joke and youre supposed to laugh at the rapist, thats good. But if you are supposed to laugh at the victim thats bad
I love dark humor, telling jokes in a pitch black room is my favorite pass time.
It's so genuinely sweet how sure Kurtis is to tell us about trigger warnings, that's incredibly helpful. it may not seem big, but it's just really nice.
I love how they call it offensive jokes and then get surprised when people get offended
@Dark Fish you people just love to make assumptions huh, of course I wouldn't say a racial slur just to a black person randomly unless they were ok with it (cus they were a friend or something). But comedy is subjective and context matters more then someone getting offended. People get offended over literally anything nowadays. Unless ur literally telling people to harass dox or swat people you disagree/joke about, I don't think there's anything wrong with offensive humor. Most people here if they truly understand what free speech is and want people to be able to speak their mind would agree too. But sure yeah I'm a racist or whatever, think what u want lol
@Nascour You're the kind of guy who wold say a racial slur them imediatly tell it was a joke to not take criticismn aint?
@Dark Fish I miss the time when people didn't try to police humor they didn't like and just label it as hate or bad when in reality humor is subjective. People like you have 0 idea what dark humor is and just parrot what kurtis conner says all day
@Dark Fish Facts.
people need to realize theres a different between having a dark sense of humor and straight up bullying like u cant just body shame/bully people and use dark humor as an excuse
I love dark humor: jokes about mental health struggles that I'm facing, about shitty capitalism and the futility of existence. What these guys are doing is not dark humor. Say it with me: DISCRIMINATION IS NOT HUMOR.
eh, it depends on how you deliver the joke. if it's bad and doesn't have any punchline then you're gonna get cancelled, if it's good well some people will laugh but you will still get cancel lol
@Grave Eternal Life yeah sometimes that's true
@pokerface The joke is supposed to be funny and yes I do know that humour is subjective but we’ve heard it a million times they only joke about oppressed communities its weird af they care too much
@Gremlin Guild I'm not trying to be offensive or anything, I'm just trying to understand why you think this way, cuz most people don't
“Dark humor” as referenced here is literally just the entrance to the alt right pipeline. It’s scary how many young boys are being indoctrinated into the alt right through memes and shit without even realizing it.
Exactly
Can we all agree that this isn't dark humour but just people being offensive all the while ACTUAL dark humour can be great and even a 'positive' force in the world through making topics discussible.
She also was great at manipulating everyone to make them think they were just “over reacting”
Exactly. It reminds me of my cousin, she’d make SUCH aweful insults to me,(In front of friends and public) and then when it hurt my feelings and embarrass me, she’d say she was just kidding. Or say no offense, as if it’ll excuse the shitty things she said to someone that offended them. Lol like girl you don’t get a free pass for this kind of shit 🙄
Dark humor is calling my diabetic boyfriend sugar.
@Buhlebuzile Gumbi -
LMAO
NOOO THATS SO FUNNY THOUGH
That ain't dark humor at all. Thats legit just a shitty pun🤣
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I love dark/sarcastic humor, i hate offensive jokes, theres a huge difference
In any circumstance i will be the first to talk about myself (disabled, with ADHD, LGBTQ+ and arab-latina, im literally everything boomers hate lmao) with humor, i always pop the "yea ik im rolling on thin ice" joke when im in a wheelchair. My literal hobby is messing with people.
So fr theres a huge difference between finding humor in a situation and being offensive, disrespectful and intolerant. Youre 100% right when you say these ppl arent funny, theyre just assholes.
I literally make fucked up jokes about myself . It’s so wrong to make jokes about marginalized people. I’m bisexual Latina women so I literally can’t with these guys on internet !
@bells g I make homophobic and racist jokes all the time as a black bisexual women. Because that’s what dark humor is. The whole point of dark humor is for it to be offensive there’s no limits to dark humor. Now if you take away the offensive part then it’s just humor in general. Now I don’t like it when anyone says the N-word in general no matter if it’s black, white, Hispanic, ect. I simply don’t like it when anyone says the N-word. The whole point I’m trying to make is that dark humor never has a limit to it. If you get offended by dark humor jokes than that is your problem not anyone else’s. You only let yourself get butt hurt by a joke that was probably not even directed towards you. So if you can’t take the heat get out of the kitchen. Is what im trying to say. People are going to get offended in this world it’s a part of life. We just have to learn how to live through it.
@Samantha Roggelin not really, as i mentioned i make lots of questionable jokes but im never racist, im never homophobic etc etc. You dont need to be an asshole to make a funny grim joke. Also theres the locus of speech factor, like how a black person can say the n word but other ppl shouldnt, thats an example of locus of speech. Some jokes hit very differently depending on whos making it, in what context, using which tone and who the public is.
Girl-dark humor it’s supposed to be offensive that’s the whole point of dark humor jokes. To get offended by and laugh at it.
People who make homophobic/transphobic “dark humor” jokes r the fruitiest people u will see
@august “sorry I’m not a weeb” Okay???
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@Park Jimin RIP Ramzi and Hanji.
@Park Jimin A month late. Can't stop me now. The rumbling has started.
It really sucks because dark humor can be some of the funniest stuff or the total opposite. You can't just make fun of horrible things and say it's "dark humor" there actually has to be a JOKE that's not at the expense of something horrific
thank you for speaking on this Kurtis probably one of your funniest vids imo
Just the best
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That just ain't it
Wait you’re that one guy who makes Tiktok remixes right
YOOO love ur tiktok content
Y'know what's funnier than """dark humour""" - children falling. That will always be funnier.
ashamed to say I used to be a person obsessed with dark humor, which was really conflicting for me when this video came out.
Same honestly
TOP 1 ANIME ARC
proud of you for becoming decent
same, so glad i grew out of it or it could have been so much worse
At least u acknowledge it..
I understand that many people use dark humor as an excuse to be a shitty person. However, one man has mastered the art of being a nice dark comedian. May I present, Bo Burnham
It’s a little disturbing that people think these are jokes and think they’re ok 😳
Dark humor has the same energy as “I’m weird. I’m a weirdo. You ever see me without this stupid hat? That’s weird!”
@blacklaluna exactly my humor is fucked up but never crosses the line into homophobia or racism or anything like that but mostly my mental health at my own expense
gonna start leaving this quote under shitty dark humour vids
@blacklaluna it's different joking about your own pain
@Life Sucks so you like Shane Dawson?
Thats one of the stupidest things ive ever heard... You must have not gone thru much shit in life if you think way... If you ever step foot in a rehab or a jail the only humor you will hear will be dark humor. People who go thru painful events joke about painful and or dark shit to make it lighter. You must be the type who sees someone who is dark as trying to be different or weird or something no darkness 9 times out of 10 is a reflection of pain.
I hate the whole “he’s only making expressions” argument, like look at the context 😭 so many people just fail to look at the context, it’s not solely about the expressions it’s about what he’s reacting to, and how he’s reacting to it
Something that makes me unreasonably happy is the fact that kurtis wouldn’t call me a slur
ok
we stan a respectful king 😌
transphobes have two jokes, and neither of them are funny
@Silke Waslander I dont know much about what that means, but Im genderfluid :D
@Balls that’s the demigirl flag
@Silke Waslander whats the grey and pink flag in your pfp?
@Caro or “I have no pronouns!”
@Silke Waslander you forgot the nor/mal jokes
None of this is dark humor it’s just offensive humor. Dark humor is what you see in like the medical setting where we have to cope with death and really shitty situations and humor is the only way to keep ourselves from losing our minds.
It shouldn’t be humor at the expense of any one group of people, but more making light at our mortality, like your buddy is doing
if every man was like kurtis conner i wouldn't be scared to walk alone at night
same
@Santi Alterman not really. I got rob gun point alot in Chicago
Right
People would be getting banned left and right. I understand where he is coming from but let tool's be tool's. Freedom of speech still matters
Daily reminder that misogyny and transphobia is not the same thing as ‘dark humor’
There’s a fine line between being dark and being offensive, and these guys are the ladder
you literally say everything i want to explain to people who think they have "dark humor". like your videos are seriously so entertaining
I hate it when people make “jokes” about a traumatic situation (r*pe, sa, etc) and then someone gets mad or triggered about it (they have all right because it a serious thing people shouldn’t joke about), they call them a snowflake. Like I’d like to see you get r*ped then get made fun of when you’re offended by the topic of something traumatic.
one thing i like is when people say "this generation is so sensitive" when there was a generation throwing fits if a black guy walked into a restaurant made for white people
@Sabrina Palazzo I mean they kinda are ngl..
@EddieIsVeryGay ok that’s literally what you’re doing you guys are literally saying every American in the 60s were racist. Tell me how is that NOT generalizing a generation.
@oats no
Not just throwing fits, but throwing food or pots full of hot coffee at them
a black boy whistled to a woman as a joke and he ended up getting fucking tortured and murdered. i dont think were the sensitive ones
I’m just glad the older generation didn’t hop on this dark humor trend because they love to call our generation soft for actually being considerate of one another and ourselves
Murderer: *kills someone’s family*
Victim: *cries*
Murderer: “It’s just a prank bro!”
@Leo Exactly.
pretty accurate
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Dark humour fans in one sentence: I’m a creep, I’m a weirdo!!!
I used to be a person that called overly sensitive people a snowflake but now it’s way too overused and for people that have a genuine reason to be offended
3:08 that’s a perfect example of dark humor not just repeating used stereotypes that are racist and sexist, it’s pulling and making fun of your own trauma / experiences in a way that wouldn’t be funny to the average person, it’s poking fun at “taboo” topics, not like racism but like grief, depression, suicide, things that usually aren’t funny, that’s dark humor not “girls just won’t shut up am I right?” or “the lgbt community? ew!”
And now the latest trend on ticktock is just blatant racism with the 👴🏻emoji at the end... way to go people
always thought "dark/edgy humor" referred to stuff that me and my goth friends would joke about :/
like the realities of death, joking about our suicidal thoughts as a way to cope, joking about our depression to bond over our shared experiences, etc etc. i didn't even realize i'd say i have a dark sense of humor and somebody somewhere probably thought i was just a dickhead
what’s weird to me about these type of people who get off on “offending the snowflakes” is that they’re the ones who are being offended by women, racial minorities, and lgbt people literally just living. so why is it that when people get mad over someone being transphobic, homophobic, etc we’re being “snowflakes”, but when they get mad enough over people existing and living their lives that they dedicate their pages to making fun of those people, they’re not?
Exactly
@Obscurist Yeah that makes more sense.
@Demetria N nah cus you could learn a language and dress traditionally but that doesn't make you that race. Being left handed is Definitely an identity maybe probably
@Obscurist I see. In my head, I was kinda comparing it to being non-binary or transitional between genders, but I like that comparison as well XD.
@Demetria N mixed race and cultural appropriation obviously
The fact that you're funny is proof that humor is not dead today, it's just the people who complain about it were not funny to begin with. Being "free" does not justify being an asshole, I'm free to walk on the streets and take public transportation carrying stinky rotten onions on an open bag but that doesn't mean it's ok to do it.
I am non-binary and this is so offensive I’m so glad that kurtis is addressing this
literally I can't even say I have a dark sense of humor bc I don't want people to think I'm one of those things 💀
I personally disagree with the idea that these things can't be joked about, but it's thin ice, if the joke is making fun of these groups rather than making jokes about circumstances around them or belittling the people who treat others poorly, it's probably not a very good joke.
For instance, in that tik tok with the rape joke, how hard would it have been to instead of make fun of the people with this trauma, make fun of the people that would genuinely say that. put on a fedora with some heavy breathing and get a shoe thrown at you and bam, you put the onus back onto these monsters while still being 'edgy'
If you're making a joke about s*xual assault, the butt of the joke should be the abuser, not the victim. I thought this was common sense? It's not funny to be like "omg look at this person's highly traumatic experience lol!"
The most ironic part is that these fanboys scream snowflake and call people sensitive for just saying "that joke isn't funny, I didn't laugh." when that's literally the most snowflake behavior possible.
@trusted worthy Nah but if you make a rape joke punching down at the victim you are in no place to get offended when people come for you. Being a rape survivor too, I like me some humour that takes the piss of rapists and even some self deprecation stuff, but at a certain point it just becomes calling survivors of rape and CSA weak, or making fun of their pain. I don't find jokes mocking victims funny at all. That's not funny and I fail to see how it could be to anyone but people who find the suffering of others funny, aka shit people. Plus, rape threats and even actual sexual harassment aren't jokes even if you slap the joke label onto it. It's real harm. I had guys and gals sexually harass me for an entire year cos they thought triggering my trauma (cos they somehow found out about my CSA) was a funny joke. It was not fucking funny. It was excruciating to live through.
Unless you're making fun of yourself as a survivor imo. I make fun of my childhood trauma constantly, or at least I used to, and I was always the butt of the joke. I suppose it wasn't exactly healthy though lol.
@Stella Petty nah
@trusted worthy ….it’s… not a good thing to be ableist??? be better
“Dark humor” about marginalized groups and sexual abuse are of terrible taste.
these people need to learn the difference between dark humour and being a bad person, dark humour is making jokes about a serious/bad thing, most of the time as a coping mechanism and not making light of it. like for example, me and my friends are almost all lgbtq and we’ve said stuff like “i hope i don’t get hate crimed” and there’s a big difference between stuff like that and just straight up using “comedy” as an excuse to be racist, sexist, misogynistic, homophobic, ableist, etc
The part that sucks about all of this is the fact they never find out what's wrong in what they are saying and they don't apologize yet they are famous and probably have more of a following unlike people who aren't just trash human beings. These people act horrible for the sake of being horrible and people think that it's ok which is the most messed up part.
I'll always my mom telling me as a child "a joke is only funny once" and i do still genuinely believe that any joke, even the funniest best written one, gets progressively less funny the more you watch/hear it.
Donelij's joke format, imo, the first time is very mildly comical, whilst being offensive, but honestly, so fucking boring once you realised that's basically the whole premise of his Tiktok account.
I think what's even sadder is that he actually has a community of people around him that are actually, clearly transphobic.
In my opinion it's funny when an actual comedian makes a well thought offensive joke, but the whole point is: it's a fucking joke.
I don't really know if i could call Donelij a homophobe or a transphobe, but it's pretty clear lots of people around him and in his community are, and him continuing his lame joke only exacerbates the problem and encourages them.
@Jack that's true, like inside jokes, but sometimes it's also crap and boring
sometimes in friend groups it’s funny just repeating some random phrase over and over again tho lol
I find the “Dark humor” crowd is 20% people who *actually* make good dark humor and 80% miserable little boys who don’t actually MAKE any humor but FIND humor in seeing what makes people react in disgust.
It’s a sad coping mechanism & cry for attention in those who are incredibly lonely.
Not exactly. I wouldn't say I'm sad. I'm actually quite happy and have a stable relationship and a secured future. I just love seeing people get all worked up over something stupid
As someone who used to be as offensive as possible, i agree. I wanted to paint myself as this edgy, unfazed, thick-skinned girl, who didn't care 'bout anything she said 'cause "they're just words, i'm not actually x". I broke down this wall, and now i let others see how fucking insecure and self-loathing i am.
@J_MeVideos Yea that's fair. If your intent was to offend then it isn't a joke.
@L3tlcw Gaming Here's a better definition "Dark humour isn't made specifically to offend others, but rather to make light of the dark and negative aspects of society" If your joke is just "Isn't being gay weird, haha" then you're not doing comedy effectively at all.
Ight, I actually do dark humor with my friends. But it isn't about others pain, it's mostly just my suffering, my anxiety and the abuse I used to have ig, it's a way I cope.
Oh kurtis. I found you and joined because you’re funny and adorable as hell and then I’ll see a video like this and it’s always a nice bonus for a PLclipr to actually care about people. You dont only roast the people but you also give criticism on how they could be better .
And I don’t know how you do stand up either...but that’s because it’s hard to say things in general infront of a live audience and to think on the fly and not take things to heart if, for instance, the joke doesn’t land and everyones silent ...
Oh and also, thank you for the trigger warnings. I personally don’t need them but I know some people do and that just shows the respect you have.
THIS IS WHERE ALL THE TRANSPHOBIC STUFF ENDS 7:55 I'm trans and I know how badly it can hurt
you're a really cool guy! not only is every argument on POINT, but you phrased in a way that you literally cannot refute them. hell yea bro
Kurtis you've ruined my sense of humor, I can no longer say "rest in peace" now I always sing "rest in Kieth" and no one understands what I'm referencing 💔
i know the “i identify as a little girl joke” was insanely disrespectful to the trans and non-binary community but it’s also got some underlying pedophilia there, and that just makes it twice as disgusting.
*his joke was meant to be transphobic(and it was), just the thought of him going into a little girls bathroom is icky
I’m a bit late but I’m pretty sure it’s a reference to that one news story where someone identified as trans and went into the girls restroom and proceeded to do things to a child. Not remotely trying to defend the guy just giving context for that instance
@oh no that would make sense too. Still awful.
thought it was more like making fun of gender-fluid people
Great dark humor has usually been addressing situations where the options are to cry or laugh about it. When things are so bad that you have no other choice than to make a joke or fall apart. It's not effective when you are not experiencing the pain, because you are actually in a position where you have plenty of options outside of cry or laugh to stay sane. If a trans person makes jokes about being trans, that is a way of coping with very difficult circumstances. But as the person of the dominant community, the humor doesn't work because you are not using it as a coping skill, which is critical to it being funny.
Where I’m from, dark humour is how we survived. Everything was dark so if we didn’t laugh at the dark stuff we wouldn’t laugh. We always say “if I don’t laugh, I’ll cry” but that humour never really refers to other people (sometimes political people), it’s situations, the government as a whole or your own misfortune. It’s not dead parent jokes on other people or rape jokes, human trafficking jokes or miscarriage jokes which nobody ever finds funny.
I now have so much respect for Kurtis. I feel safe on his channel. I feel welcomed. I feel like a sibling of the folks
Kurtis’ substitute gym teacher joke made me laugh more than any of the “comedians” jokes did lol
I hate the whole “dark humor” and “snowflake” trend and calling men simps for standing up and supporting women. Like how are you mad about that
zornrl I hate how ‘simp’ is used today. A prime example of its original definition is with pokimane. Someone donated something like 80,000 dollars because they have a crush on them, find her attractive and want a chance to be her bf/gf. It was never meant for people who defend women, and I quite frankly have no idea how it turned into that new definition. Either way simp used to mean someone who gives loads of money to attractive women (usually streamers) in hopes of future relationships.
Miranda02 you don’t understand the idea of a joke, ITS NOT SERIOUS
@Natasha Bruz i agree, it's annoying lol
@DestinNine
I don’t mean it in that sense. Technically no movements have stopped or will stop once you created it.
@zornrl that’s not what simp even means please look up definitions
it's funny how those people making the jokes, despite calling it" dark humour" aren't even making dark humour jokes. dark humour is making jokes about dark subjects, most times to either cope with something or to make light of a situation, not edgy tiktok middle school boy humour
The community on tiktok is awful. All around. It’s crazy how it seems that legit every single fan base on tiktok are just all horrible people
As a victim of SA, it's genuinely refreshing to see someone with a platform defend victims and validate their feelings. The bar is on the floor, but it is still nice to see.
@SomeoneRandom same to you💕
Fellow SA victim here too, and I 100% agree. Hope your alright😊
"you never want to be on the same side as keemstar" the biggest truth
The sexual assault "joke" is not a joke, it's a passive aggressive threat. It is not constructed and designed as a joke. His intent is not to make people laugh, it's to try to scare girls into stopping calling him out on his sexist content.
@JypsOrganicFood But joking about it can be, and if you disagree you obviously weren't raised right
@Kale Leigh 🤡
@yuyu I don't know about that one about the false allegations.
Just because someone puts up a good amount of evidence that they were "assaulted", then it's a 50/50 chance that they're lying. I mean, we haven't heard the "assaulters" side of the story, they keep saying "No I didn't do it.". And who's more likely to lie the one who got "assaulted" and has some substantial proof, or the one that "assaulted" that person? Until it goes to court we will never know...
Oh jk they went to court and were a white dude netting them 6 months jail. Love you justice system.
Dark Humor: where did Tommy end up at after crossing a mine field?
Everywhere.
These TikTok’s are so awful this video must feel like a burden to make.
Even if i somehow thought that those jokes were funny and made one like that, I would at least apologize when someone got offended instead of calling them a snowflake. Thats just basic decency.
My rule is if you're making jokes about someone/a group and that person/those people don't find funny it's not a joke.
I actually do like dark humor. Not offensive humor, just dark humor, like “teach a man to light a fire and he’ll be warm for an hour, set a man on fire and he’ll be warm for the rest of his life.”
That’s warm humor
Kids falling
yeah same, mostly jokes abt doom and pain or sm
Ye
See that's good.
I like dark humor, though dark humor is something that has to be done right. It isn't just an excuse to be racist or homophobic, etc.
Bro imagine not being SA when you were 14 by an 18 year old and then someone starts making jokes about it. Hilarious😐
Knowing that Jacob got better, I can say that "oh no, I can feel my cancer getting worse" was funny
Ok so I’m non-binary and the fact that these guys are “joking” about how it’s weird to be trans or in the lgbtq+ makes me so mad
Kurtis going out of his way to put a TW in his video and letting fans know where to skip to is one of the many reasons why I love him
@ʚ♡ɞ cringe acab kid l
@bella cringe acab kid
@Ésteban Universidad I'm not making trigger warnings look like a joke, I'm making fun of his mullet
@bella i forgot what acab was and thought assigned cop at birth
I remember watching this thinking, "wow this Kurtis guy is a snowflake." My b bro you were right
@pokerface
How?
he is a snowflake tho
good on u for growing as a person
Proud of your development fr
I am glad an influencer finally talked about stuff like this
Dark humor should be handled like dark chocolate, when handled well it's absolutely delicious, but sometimes people will hand you a cocoa bean and say "Here, here's some chocolate" even though even dark chocolate has several steps of processing to go through before it becomes chocolate and what they're giving you is just a cocoa bean and not chocolate at all, so you try to tell them this and they reveal that they have your family held hostage and will dip them in chocolate if you don't buy their chocolate, so naturally you respond "Still not chocolate, what are you gonna put them in a pile of beans?" and they responds with "The chocolate will be $500 if you don't want to have to eat your wife out of a chocolate shell, besides, I hear chocolate isn't good for dogs." and you say "Hey leave the dog out of this, they did nothing wrong" and they respond "Yeah it did, it didn't buy my chocolate." and you say "Still not chocolate." and they scoff and throw you off the cliff you've been dangling off of (wasn't plot relevant until now so I didn't mention it) and throws your wife into the vat of molten chocolate not beans after all, leading to her transformation into a candy-based vigilante.
I was misunderstood what dark humor on TikTok was. Apparently I forgot it’s just hating everyone for not reason. I think it’s like this: You take a bad person, and make them the butt of the joke, not the people who have been hurt.
fun fact about “buzz”: a few days ago, he made a joke where he walked all over an american flag. a bunch of his fans got really mad and said he went “too far” and he lost 10k followers. i’ll admit that was probably the one time he was kind of funny because he just made another tiktok walking all over the flag in response and called the people unfollowing him snowflakes. but it just shows how hypocritical his fans are. they stuck around after he joked about rape but then he steps on their precious flag and they lose their shit and say it’s “too far.”
Still disrespecting someone's country is not dark humor
@Andrew Darling
BLM isn't just a flag, it's a movement.
I don't think BLM even has a flag lmao
@Blluby Bluuby
many other countries have just as much, if not more freedom, then the US. yet none of these countries practice the same cult-like Nationalism
@Yreva Yreva nick foster. I think he got banned tho.
Dark humor is supposed to make fun of really dark stuff, but lots of people use it as an excuse to be a prick.
Dark humour is funny when it is your own experiences. If you have not bee through or been the victim or something then you shouldn’t joke about it because you lack the level of nuanced understanding of it. You’re effectively punching down on those who have experienced it.
Dark humor is hard to do well, and the best way to do it is with self detriment, or by crossing the line twice where the joke becomes mocking the bigot by comedically imitating them and it's a fine line to walk. I do dark humor but the content of it always comes back to either punching up or something directed at myself, or something super absurdist
I guess I can find dark humor a little funny? But when it comes to abuse and sexual assualt, it makes me extremely uncomfortable. Especially when jokes are about wanting to sexually assualt/abuse someone bothers me a lot.
"it's just dark humor, take a joke"
the joke: *a literal hate crime*
@Demetria N
In the US hate speech is protected speech.
Thank you Basil very cool
Jokes can't be hate crimes :/
grow a pair: ❌
cant take a joke: ✅
After all this I feel like we deserve a nice clean simple joke so here I go what do you call a piece of paper that works out ... Ripped get it
Thank you for being a genuinely good person and addressing problems with these types. I love you videos your so funny!! ❤
I love Kurtis he seems kind, decent, and good-hearted.
I've said it before and I'll say it again, the only ones allowed to make R jokes are victims/survivors using humor as a coping mechanism. You might have a different view, but that's mine.